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MG NEWS: MG reveals it's first electric car, the MG ZS EV
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work, Sandie.

You're the Tablecloth Sward could have been.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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New MacD EXCITING NEWS section is now live! Sandie has the honour of penning our first report. REFULGENT!

http://macdroitwich.co.uk/mg-news/mg-zs-ev.html


I forgot to add, I didn't do any proof reading, so direct any aggro about grammar/spelling to the FLOPPY TROUSERED ONE.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Auto Express Twin Test between the ZS EV and the Leaf.

The outcome is a surprise.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

REFULGENT!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The home team had better fucking win.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Sward wrote:
The home team had better fucking win.


Yes, the MG wyns.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is definitely the first actual BTH.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting fact...
The ZS cannot accept a timed charge. So if you, like many EV owners, like to chrg3 between certain hours to take advantage of cheap electricity, you can't.
This makes it three to four times more expensive to run than other EVs.
Oh dear...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rabbi wrote:
Here's an interesting fact...
The ZS cannot accept a timed charge. So if you, like many EV owners, like to chrg3 between certain hours to take advantage of cheap electricity, you can't.
This makes it three to four times more expensive to run than other EVs.
Oh dear...


Just use one of those timer switch plugs you normally leave in the kitchen drawer when it’s not being used for the table lamp in the living room when you’re on holiday.

I’m sure this will be entirely safe Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to wake the car up to accept the charge. Once you park up, it goes to sleep.
The MG doesn't have this timed wake up feature enabled, so you have to start it charging pretty soon after you park.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have to wake the car up to accept the charge. Once you park up, it goes to sleep.
The MG doesn't have this timed wake up feature enabled, so you have to start it charging pretty soon after you park.


Useless, even worse for an economy seven charge! Eugh.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It gets better...

"During charging if there is a power outage the MG SZ EV does not resume charging after the power is restored. This is the case even if the outage is just a few seconds. This is also the case if one inadvertently disrupts charging via the Smart charge points app’.
The only way to start charging again is to carry out an “unlock and lock” with the key fob.
This has been proven on two separate MG ZS EV Exclusives, one black & one white.
With the advent of smart charge points and smart meters, the DNO (electricity Designated Network Operator) has the ability to switch these off to load shed for periods of high demand.
The consequence is that owners return to their cars to find that they have not charged to the expected level and have to postpone their journey until a manually restarted charge reaches the required SoC (State of Charge).
Those claiming "Smart charging does not affect me" [but it shall the residual value] - this does."

Oh dear. Oh dear indeed...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rabbi wrote:
It gets better...

"During charging if there is a power outage the MG SZ EV does not resume charging after the power is restored. This is the case even if the outage is just a few seconds. This is also the case if one inadvertently disrupts charging via the Smart charge points app’.
The only way to start charging again is to carry out an “unlock and lock” with the key fob.
This has been proven on two separate MG ZS EV Exclusives, one black & one white.
With the advent of smart charge points and smart meters, the DNO (electricity Designated Network Operator) has the ability to switch these off to load shed for periods of high demand.
The consequence is that owners return to their cars to find that they have not charged to the expected level and have to postpone their journey until a manually restarted charge reaches the required SoC (State of Charge).
Those claiming "Smart charging does not affect me" [but it shall the residual value] - this does."

Oh dear. Oh dear indeed...


That isn’t good. Permanently going to bed with range anxiety. I guess you would also pay for connection costs again when negotiating with the service station chargers? I saw some at £1 plus 59p/kWh - making an expensive charge even more expensive.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course a petrol pump gives one none of these headaches.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, but neither does a NISSAN LEAF.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marinast wrote:
Of course a petrol pump gives one none of these headaches.


You won’t get Greta to SUCK YOU OFF with that kind of talk.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely a small diesel powered generator fitted in the boot would help with such difficulties.
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Surely a small diesel powered generator fitted in the boot would help with such difficulties.


What, the fumes would make her pass out?
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marinast wrote:
Of course a petrol pump gives one none of these headaches.


You won’t get Greta to SUCK YOU OFF with that kind of talk.


I don’t do SLOPPY SECONDS.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We know someone who does though.
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austin-towers wrote:
This is definitely the first actual BTH.


The Rabbi wrote:
It gets better...

"During charging if there is a power outage the MG SZ EV does not resume charging after the power is restored. This is the case even if the outage is just a few seconds. This is also the case if one inadvertently disrupts charging via the Smart charge points app’.
The only way to start charging again is to carry out an “unlock and lock” with the key fob.
This has been proven on two separate MG ZS EV Exclusives, one black & one white.
With the advent of smart charge points and smart meters, the DNO (electricity Designated Network Operator) has the ability to switch these off to load shed for periods of high demand.
The consequence is that owners return to their cars to find that they have not charged to the expected level and have to postpone their journey until a manually restarted charge reaches the required SoC (State of Charge).
Those claiming "Smart charging does not affect me" [but it shall the residual value] - this does."

Oh dear. Oh dear indeed...


So basically the first Ghoul MG that had a glimmer of hope of being any good is just as much BARTON SHITE as everything else that's been extruded from SIAC's arsehole.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seamaster wrote:
JLD wrote:
Surely a small diesel powered generator fitted in the boot would help with such difficulties.


What, the fumes would make her pass out?


Maybe you could fit some sort of pipe for the exhaust gas.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is also being reported that underseal seems to be an OPTIONAL EXTRA that hasn't been ticked on these. They seem to have taken an angle grinder to the stock ZS floorpan, and bodged the battery mounting area in. Then not bothered with any rustproofing. They are beginning to rust already.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, cf: https://autoshite.com/topic/37127-mg-zs-ev/?do=findComment&comment=1885494
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie wrote:
Aye, cf: https://autoshite.com/topic/37127-mg-zs-ev/?do=findComment&comment=1885494


Hidden. Any chance of a summary?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Firstly, I wasn't really intending to get an EV just yet and didn't really want a faux SUV.

This appeared to be a bargain, but i was concerned about two things. That it would turn to be a massive pile of shit (in an undeveloped chinese car kind of way) or that depreciation would mean it would be worthless about a week after i got it.

Part of the reason for the house move was to get off street parking to avoid city centre parking damage and to get close enough to plug in of an evening. The house move has lead to some renovation which means I've being doing tip runs and picking up timber (not sheets, 2400 long sticks for dwangs and posts) amongst other things.

I figured I could line it with a tarp for the mucky stuff but was a little concerned about anything 2400mm long.



When i got there yesterday i ended up waiting for my salesman so measured the ICE ZS in the showroom, 2400mm timber will just about go in but I could see seat and console damage in the future. I sat in both the ICE ZSs in the showroom and was struggling to get comfortable.

I was then told that the EV demo was on the charger around the corner so I went to see it and had a look underneath and took a couple of pictures. I wasn't getting inside it so walked back over.

Eventually my license details were taken and the car was brought round. They'd had it a week and put 245 miles on it. I fiddled with the seat and off i went.

The driver's seat has "six way adjustment", i'd argue that forward-back, backrest angle and height makes three way adjustment but i don't write car brochures for a living. The important missing adjustment for me is seat base angle. The base was flat so my right thigh had no support unless i cranked the seat up so high i couldn't see out or so far back i couldn't reach the pedals or wheel. Ten degrees of seat base adjustment would have fixed this. Lacking that adjustment, my 28 mile test drive was actually painful. As a comparison I drove 690 miles in one day in my e46 at the begging of the year, without any leg pain.



Driving it, it accelerates well up to about 45mph and then the performance tales off. All the assistant stuff is a little annoying (default is all on) but tolerable and i'm not sure whether it needs to be turned off every time you start the car. The infotaintment is a little slow but tolerable. The material on the door cards feels a little cheap but i wouldn't be put off by that. Its less refined than most EVs but its ok.

Economy wise, I drove 28 miles and was sitting at just over 70mph on an undulating dual carriageway (A90 near Brechin ) for about 26-27 of those. No significant wind and 10 degrees C. I had reset the trip meter when i drove off and it started at 3.1 miles per kWh and dropped as i drove. It was showing 2.7m/kwh when i left the dual carriageway and I suspect might have dropped further.

If the full 44.5kwh is available then that means a range of 120 miles. The GOM was saying I had 130 or so miles left when i got back, i suspect that its optimistic.



Going back to the photos i took of the underside, the first one shows the area where the underseal has not been applied so they can bolt the battery pack on, the brown spots appeared to be dirt ( I rubbed one off) but there is a lot of pained metal without underseal where the pack is attached.

The second shot (apologies for it being out of focus) shows an area where the underseal was cut (the straight line) and torn off (the edges were peeling) to expose a hole in a crossmember.

Now you might think that I, as a bathroom designer, don't have the first clue about automotive rust proofing and that the folk at SIAC (great bunch of lads) would never ever get too heavy handed when cutting through the underseal and go through to the bare metal and even if they did the paint is some super duper, gloopy anti-rust formula.

Well, you'd think that until you caught sight of the dent in the bonnet which had gone through the paint.



And was already rusting!


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TLDR: It’s no Dacia Duster.
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People who buy cheap cars and moan that they’re built cheaply want hitting with a griddle-pan.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the driving position actually quite good. Regardless anyone on Autoshite with a new car is a Motability fiddler. Allegedly.
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FERAL SPASTICS.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOOD NEWS! MG ZS EV and HS both bag five star Euro NCAP ratings.

https://www.am-online.com/news/new-car-news/car-model-news/2019/12/18/euro-ncap-ends-2019-with-flurry-of-five-star-safety-ratings
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't drive an ESPECIALLY VERDIGRIS or HUGELY SHITE if you paid me.
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Generally speaking, we pay the Irish to do most things.
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Lord Sward wrote:
Generally speaking, we pay the Irish to do most things.

You hardly think we're thick enough to do it FOR FREE
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You are though.
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Seamaster wrote:
You are though.

Yet we don't.
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marinast wrote:
GOOD NEWS! MG ZS EV and HS both bag five star Euro NCAP ratings.

https://www.am-online.com/news/new-car-news/car-model-news/2019/12/18/euro-ncap-ends-2019-with-flurry-of-five-star-safety-ratings


Do they crash them with the battery packs in?
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https://insideevs.com/news/402689/mg-sales-uk-february-2020-evs/
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S, BS, FS.
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