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FORDMAGEDDON - New facts emerge

 
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5ivegearsinreverse
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:54 pm    Post subject: FORDMAGEDDON - New facts emerge Reply with quote

20% cut in headcount for Europe by the end of 2020. David Brent-ish wrapping up of bad news in nebulous statements about R&D and "Centres of Excellence".

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2019/06/27/ford-looks-to-the-future-in-europe--business-redesigned-for-prof.html

There's got to be worse to come. These days Köln-Nippe looks like Longbridge in 2004. Brexit might be enough to finish manufacturing there.

FoMoCo wrote:
The new European operating model and resulting organization are effective July 1. Three new business groups – Commercial Vehicles (CVs), Passenger Vehicles (PVs) and Imports – are established to facilitate fast decision-making centred on customer needs. Each has a dedicated management organisation including leaders responsible for marketing, manufacturing and product development.

The Commercial Vehicles group will be led by general manager Hans Schep and based at the company’s CV centre of excellence in Dunton, U.K., which is being strengthened through facility improvements and investments to enhance technical skills.

Ford intends to grow its leadership as the top-selling CV brand in Europe, including leading the pickup segment, and to double its CV profitability in Europe in the next five years. This growth will be supported by its strategic alliance with Volkswagen, its Ford Otosan joint venture in Turkey and a restructured Ford Sollers joint venture in Russia.

The Passenger Vehicles group, under general manager Roelant de Waard based in Cologne, Germany, will lead a future portfolio of European-built cars and SUVs.

Cross-functional project teams are dedicated to running each vehicle nameplate, empowered to adjust design and manufacturing to focus on customer needs. European passenger vehicle development, including battery electric vehicles, will be centred in Cologne-Merkenich.

The Imports group will comprise a niche portfolio of iconic passenger vehicles including Mustang, Explorer and an all-new Mustang-inspired fully electric performance utility coming in late 2020. Ford expects to more than triple passenger vehicle imports into Europe annually by 2024.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm off to Bob's Engine plant at Deeside on Monday. It's half empty allegedly since a near complete diseasal engine project was shit canned in 2009. It's out on a limb too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ford is looking more and more desperate.
And to think, this time 10 years ago they were the only Big 3 maker not to go into Chap 11.
They LIDERALLY had a headstart on their local competitors.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a different story in the States, according to Maximum Bob in this wide-ranging ANE interview by MAN OF CLASS Richard Truett:

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/bob-lutz-ford-gm-carlos-ghosn-and-future


ANE wrote:
On GM vs. Ford in design:

I am saying this for the first time in my career: I think Ford has an exquisite handle on design right now. You could first see it in the 2013 Fusion and the Lincoln version. The Mustang clearly out-designed the new-generation Camaro, and sales are showing it. The Lincoln crossovers were very well executed. The Lincoln Corsair is going to be very good. The Aviator is off the charts in every respect.

But that is what you do if you want to gain market share and win against the competition. You don't go for barely competitive and what can we get away with? You go out to kill with the interior. That is where a few hundred bucks can buy you thousands of dollars' worth of perceived value.

Ford is clearly on a roll when it comes to design. GM is used to being the design leader in the United States. Arguably a few years ago, it was true. But GM needs to pull it out. Ford is doing a great job, without a question.

On GM vs. Ford in business:

A lot of the difference in earnings between GM and Ford in the last few years is due to the fact that GM had the benefit of fresh product: full-size pickups, Colorado and Canyon, and of course, GM's SUVs were much newer and better than Ford's. With the Tahoe, Yukon and Escalade, GM had, I think, around 75 percent of that segment. Ford's were old enough to vote.

Now Ford has the new Expedition, which is a phenomenally good vehicle, and the Lincoln Navigator, which when I look at it, I think that is what the Bentley Bentayga should have looked like. Great powertrain, beautiful, beautiful world-class interiors and a good exterior. That Bentley-esque grille never hurts, either.

I think now that GM is at the tail end of its product generation and is having some trouble with its [full-size] pickups, it's bound to affect profitably. In China, everybody's profitability is a little bit off. I expect Ford to financially rebound vs. GM.


I kind of see what he means about "what the Bentley Bentayga should have looked like."



Only a 3.5 litre V6 to haul along 2.6 tons, but it does manage 450bhp and 746 N⋅m of gearbox-breaking effort.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s no RX.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have no fear, GM have the answer*.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/25/chevy-is-working-on-what-could-be-the-first-pickup-to-top-100000.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

620bob wrote:
I'm off to Bob's Engine plant at Deeside on Monday. It's half empty allegedly since a near complete diseasal engine project was shit canned in 2009. It's out on a limb too.

Literally sales have collapsed here of new cars
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marinast wrote:
Have no fear, GM have the answer*.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/25/chevy-is-working-on-what-could-be-the-first-pickup-to-top-100000.html


I really do enjoy the perpetual American pickup truck arms race. It's fun.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bent Gay and Cullinan pick-ups can't be far off.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5ivegearsinreverse wrote:
The Bent Gay and Cullinan pick-ups can't be far off.


Coming soon to an illegal travellers’ site near you!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sward's won Euromillions?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bentgays have been on caravan sites from day 1.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Says a lot about caravanners, that does.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm Deeside is half empty and has had knack all spent on it lately.Interesting I must say, saw a glowing crucible full of liquid aluminium. Didn't realise all the off cuts from our aluminium hoods are melted down in engine blokes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5ivegearsinreverse wrote:

I kind of see what he means about "what the Bentley Bentayga should have looked like."



Only a 3.5 litre V6 to haul along 2.6 tons, but it does manage 450bhp and 746 N⋅m of gearbox-breaking effort.


I borrowed the Lincoln's sister car, the Ford Expedition, when I was in the US over Christmas. A surprisingly good car, and deceptively brisk with that twin turbo V6, especially considering how vast it is.

Here we see it alongside the famously tiny first gen Volvo XC90.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody hell, it makes that XC90 look tiny!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure the XC90 is not just very far away in that photo?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

620bob wrote:
I can confirm Deeside is half empty and has had knack all spent on it lately.Interesting I must say, saw a glowing crucible full of liquid aluminium. Didn't realise all the off cuts from our aluminium hoods are melted down in engine blokes.


Fucking hell they melt down the workers for not making quota. It’s harsh under the NIP LASH.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd forgotten that they speak Seppo at Burnaston.

And - it would seem - SCOTH.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why have three dedicated models when a single one will do?

I don’t think Ford really understand (or are at least trying to convince themselves of some other reason) why the S Max and Galaxy are bought by those looking for a large vehicle with the capacity to seat seven.

SUVs are not the be all and end all for car design.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ford-resurrect-mondeo-global-mid-sized-crossover
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ford's current line up is a bit SHITE
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEATH TO SUVs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think we're far off the end of the crossover trend, and then the makers who have bet the farm on them will have big problems.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What comes after crossovers then?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMALL SALOONS.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie wrote:
Don't think we're far off the end of the crossover trend, and then the makers who have bet the farm on them will have big problems.


Every time a daft SUV cunt gets Uber-ed in a Prius, they’re woken up to their slavish hive mind stupidity.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie wrote:
Don't think we're far off the end of the crossover trend, and then the makers who have bet the farm on them will have big problems.


Like fuck.

Till the day they abolish Motability, there will be SUV's aplenty on the nation's council house driveways.
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Seamaster wrote:
Every time a daft SUV cunt gets Uber-ed in a Prius, they’re woken up to their slavish hive mind stupidity.


How's that C-HR you were ENDLESSLY talking about getting?
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